As human beings we regularly change—we develop. What follows is the transcript from our interview with Dr. Terri O’Fallon, founder of STAGES, an integrally based model that defines 12 stages in the evolution of human consciousness and meaning-making wisdom.

Dr. Roger Walsh, one of the world's leading experts on the mind, joins us to discuss how integral psychology, altered states, and spiritual practices can help us meet our current global crises while building a “bunker of light” for future generations.